Skip to main content

Friendly Fire

Man killed in London not connected to blasts - Police officials express regret in shooting death of Brazilian man

"LONDON - Police identified the man who was chased down in a subway and shot to death by plainclothes officers as a Brazilian and expressed regret Saturday for his death, saying they no longer believed he was tied to the recent terror bombings.

Friday’s shooting before horrified commuters prompted criticism of police for overreacting and expressions of fear that Asians and Muslims would be targeted by a “trigger-happy culture” after two well-coordinated attacks in two weeks.

The man shot at the Stockwell subway station was identified as Jean Charles de Menezes, 27. Witnesses said he was wearing a heavy, padded coat when plainclothes police chased him into a subway car, pinned him to the ground and shot him in the head and torso."

I am familar with "friendly fire", which is sadly more common during war than you think. Soldiers are trained yes - to shoot at silhouettes on the target range, but in real time where there is absolutely Chaos and everyone is running around jumping at "shadows" doesn't take much to make a mistake.

In this incident, adrenaline and abject terror combine for a tragedy.

Original reports had Mr. Menezes running, seemly ignoring commands from the police to stop. We are told he spoke english, so there was no language barrier. He's dead, so we don't know why he continued to run. Was he just "freaking out", terrified as everyone else and so just running for his life? Was he "fearful" of the police?

We really don't know.

Most police incidents involving charges of abuse are usually attributed to a rush of adrenaline. Unless you're a cop and have be involved in chasing someone, whether in a car or on foot, you haven't a clue what "the rush" means. Every sense is hightened. You are "charged". All your training helps, but again, you're interpretation of "what is on the line" is all that is on your mind. The goal - Survive.

Witnesses state the subject was "chased" into a subway car, held down and shot. If true, there may be charges against the officers involved. However, we have to understand that this story via AP carries no mention that he was chased, BECAUSE he ran.

Suicide bombers carrying detonation devices cannot be "stopped and frisked". They could set the detonation, or it could be timed. In "Nam" 'decoy's' - were known to run around a 'hooch', leading soldiers into a chase and subequently into an ambush. This guy was running INTO a subway car. Officers thinking, "He could detonate!" and mostly likely following instinct and training, resorted to "Neutralizing the threat".

Brutal yes. War is brutal. London is at war. We are at war. Let's keep that in mind.

I can't judge these officers, nor what they did, but I do understand the mindset - I've been there. No doubt there will be an inquest to determine if any action needs to be taken. For know, I'll withhold judgement. Yet I will say that we might see more of this take place if certain "Civil" procedures are not implemented.

One suggestion - which is used in the Republic of Korea (South), is during time of emergency sirens sound all over the city involved, such as Seoul. People are told beforehand to "stop movement" or "freeze frame" if you will. During my tours there in 77 and 83, I remember these alerts well. Everyone, and I mean everyone, cars, etc. stops right where they are at until they are signaled to move again by authorities.

Would that kind of system work in London, New York or elsewhere? Probably not, but it or something similar could be implemented so that these incidents don't repeat.

Captain Ed's take here.

Wizbang: "If it walks like a duck,...It must be a duck" here


Popular posts from this blog

Calling Mr. Fitzgerald?


As I told you about in this post yesterday as a source confirmed to me that the Justice Department has launched a probe into the NSA leak. Mr. Risen, you are in trouble - prepare your defense. I told you so.

The White House will be announcing the probe at about 12:30pm. My source tells me that this probe will most likely result in another prosecutor being assigned as of course Fitzgerald is still busy/dizzy on the Plame/Game No-Leak. Additionally, other probes into other recent leaks such as the CIA 'prisons'leak is in the works as well. As I said, this is the NEW Bush - on the attack - it's no more Mr. Nice Guy!

About time! Also covering Michelle Malkin

*****End Update*********

UPDATE II: Looks like I owe my source big time as yet another tip comes true as the Washington Post is on the target list as well for the CIA Prison leak.

****End Update II*************************************

Update III: Via Fox: "The government has no legal right to…

Able Danger - Sign Up - Get the Truth

Per the Able Danger Blog (newly added link), get over to this petition and sign ur name. Again, if there is any chance of true bi-partisan hearings, the people are going to have to speak up and loud.

Just do it!

Newsbusters Busts the MSM on Bush Event

Newsbusters, the blog of Brent Bozell's Media Research Center, exposes the MSM attempt to spin President Bush's meeting with troops into a 'staged event'.

Truth is that the event was not staged, the troops were telling their real feelings: that they support the war and our President.

I guess they might have this story mixed up with the "planted question" to Sec. Rumsfeld back in December 2004.

Yet, that wasn't the case here, Soldiers when asked, will tell you the truth.

Just like in this picture, they tell it like it is!

Michelle Malkin has links to other reactions. Also Blogs for Bush.

UPDATE I: Michelle has a further reponse from one of the soldiers in the video. Here's an excerpt:

"First of all, we were told that we would be speaking with the President of the United States, our Commander-in-Chief, President Bush, so I believe that it would have been totally irresponsible for us NOT to prepare some ideas, facts or comments that we wanted to share …