Saturday, November 07, 2009


Obamacare Live Thread - The MacRanger Show Edition ***UPDATE: Vote Coming***UPDATE: Obamacare passes 220-215 - Choke One Republican Votes "Yea"

I still don't think they'll get the vote off.   They simply don't have the votes.  Michelle Malkin is live-blogging.

The MacRanger Show on Blog Talk Radio will be all about this move of Pelosi to seize the country's healthcare system.

Overnight pro-life Dems won a battle to get language that allowed fed dollars for abortions to be removed from the bill.  This is significant, however fiscal dems have always been the key to passage and the cost of the bill is still a significant hurdle.

Sources tell me that they are still about 11 confirmed votes short of the 218 they need and four of those have their minds made up in the "Nay" column.

Again, don't underestimate the power of this week's GOP sweeps.

UPDATE:  Obama is on the Hill now, to "rally the troops".   Too bad his clout is lacking.  Most dems on the fence are looking at the 11 point drop in support of the bill in during the month of October.

UPDATE:  Eric Cantor provides a tally of opposing dems.

UPDATE:  The vote IS coming.  It's going to be close, but it's apparent they still don't have the votes.

From CNN:
"House Democrats needed 218 votes to pass the health care bill. Without any Republican support, that meant Democrats can lose no more than 40 of their own members. And as the House appeared to near a vote late Saturday night, CNN confirmed at least 35 Democrats planned to vote no. Another dozen or so had not made public commitments or were undecided. In other words, if no Republicans voted yes, Democrats could afford to lose only five more members of their 258-member caucus on the issue."

UPDATE:  It was close, 220-215, with one Republican, Anh Cao, who replaced "Dollar Bill Jefferson" voting yes.

Dems are whooping it up, but this was too close to guarantee any success in the Senate.  Especially with Reed at the helm.   That means we keep up the pressure on Senate Dems.

The 39 Dems who voted against Pelosi:

1. Rep. John Adler (NJ) 2. Rep. Jason Altmire (PA) 3. Rep. Brian Baird (WA) 4. Rep. John Barrow (GA) 5. Rep. John Boccieri (OH) 6. Rep. Dan Boren (OK) 7. Rep. Rick Boucher (VA) 8. Rep. Allen Boyd (FL) 9. Rep. Bobby Bright (AL) 10. Rep. Ben Chandler (KT) 11. Rep. Travis Childers (MS) 12. Rep. Artur Davis (AL) 13. Rep. Lincoln Davis (TN) 14. Rep. Chet Edwards (TX) 15. Rep. Bart Gordon (TN) 16. Rep. Parker Griffith (AL) 17. Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (SD) 18. Rep. Tim Holden (PA) 19. Rep. Larry Kissell (NC) 20. Rep. Suzanne Kosmas (FL) 21. Rep. Frank Kratovil (MD) 22. Rep. Dennis Kucinich (OH) 23. Rep. Jim Marshall (GA) 24. Rep. Betsy Markey (CO) 25. Rep. Eric Massa (NY) 26. Rep. Jim Matheson(UT) 27. Rep. Mike McIntyre (NC) 28. Rep. Michael McMahon (NY) 29. Rep. Charlie Melancon (LA) 30. Rep. Walt Minnick (ID) 31. Rep. Scott Murphy (NY) 32. Rep. Glenn Nye (VA) 33. Rep. Collin Peterson (MN) 34. Rep. Mike Ross (AR) 35. Rep. Heath Shuler (NC) 36. Rep. Ike Skelton (MO) 37. Rep. John Tanner (TN) 38. Rep. Gene Taylor (MS) 39. Rep. Harry Teague (NM)

Thanks for standing for Americans!

Final UPDATE:  This says it all.

The passage of the bill was an exhilarating victory for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and for President Barack Obama. But the Senate has yet to begin floor debate on its own version of insurance reform. That debate may be weeks away, with Senate Democratic leaders still negotiating over the details of their legislation. If the Senate enacts its bill, conferees from House and Senate would then meet to negotiate a final compromise measure. That compromise would then need to be voted on by the House and Senate. So Democratic members from Republican-leaning districts who cast a difficult vote Saturday night for the House bill will face yet another tough vote in several weeks."
Which means that in several weeks constituents will have descended on dems who voted "yes", a swing of 5-10 of those votes could kill this thing. That is - and it's a big "IF" it passes the Senate. 39 Dems voting against it is significant, and will only get more significant as the days go by. So again, KEEP UP THE FIGHT. For those standing by, the "Code Red" has been called. You know what to do.

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