Lori Byrd at Polipundit, has been talking about Chris Matthew's Hardball show on MSNBC, here and here.

The Political Teen has the openning video to Hardball - can you feel the suspense?....NOT!

If you were watching him before Fitzmas last month you'll know he was as if he was holding "mock impeachement hearings" with guest like John Dean telling us that Bush was going down like Nixon.

But as we know, Fitz Fizzed.....

Lori further links to Jed Babbin over at American Spectator Blog who writes:

"Seeking to justify the Dems newest use of their Vietnam Playbook -- saying the president lied us into Iraq the same way LBJ lied us into Vietnam -- Chris Matthews said this morning that the attack on US ships in the Gulf of Tonkin never happened. The Tonkin Gulf resolution, passed by Congress and authorizing military intervention in Vietnam, has always been used by the party of George McGovern to condemn the Vietnam war. The problem that Matthews, Dean and the rest have is that the Tonkin Gulf attack - and the threat of Saddam -- weren't fiction.

As I wrote for another publication in 2003, the parallel is very apt, but for precisely the opposite reason that the Dems want it to be. As that column said, "...the destroyer USS Maddox — gathering intelligence for the South Vietnamese — was attacked by four North Vietnamese patrol boats on August 2, 1964. Maddox — aided by carrier aircraft — severely damaged the attackers, leaving at least one dead in the water." The next night, there was another attack detected, but due to the overcast skies, US aircraft couldn't find them and they couldn't find the US ships. One pilot who flew that second night e-mailed me that he was confident the enemy boats were there. In that e-mail, he told me, "We were being vectored by a radar operator. He could see our aircraft and he could see the targets on the water. We were vectored to a surface target, but without flares we could not see it. I know for certain there were targets on the water, but like the WMD in Iraq, we could not visually find them."

The Dems are desperate to make Iraq another Vietnam. "The president lied us into war" is just a page from the Vietnam playbook. It wasn't true then, and it isn't true now."


Following things like I do, I noticed the "language" Matthews is using is a lot like the language VIPS member and founder Ray McGovern uses in his rantings, especially the lame spew about the Tonkin Gulf resolution which McGovern has been screaming about since forever.

To wit: "...the war in Vietnam is replete with examples of fabrication and/or misrepresentation of intelligence to justify US government policies and actions. The best-known case, of course, is the infamous Tonkin Gulf incident—the one that did not happen but was used by President Lyndon Johnson to strong-arm Congress into giving him carte blanche for the war. Adding insult to injury, CIA current intelligence analysts were forbidden to report accurately on what had happened (and not happened) in the Tonkin Gulf in their daily publication the next morning, on grounds that the President had already decided to use the non-incident to justify launching the air war that very day. The analysts were aghast when their seniors explained that they had decided that they did not want to “wear out their welcome at the White House.” Ray McGovern - Common Dreams: "Weapons of Mass Distraction: Where? Find? Plant?

McGovern is a few fries short of a happy meal on more than a few things, and this is one. That said, I find the language of this McGovern article and Matthews recent blatherings curiously "together". I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find out he was sourcing McGovern on the side.

If Matthews wants to retain any credibility he hadn't lost already during Fitzmas-Fizz, he ought to dump the McGovern script while he has the chance.








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